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Jan 04, 2019 20:15:14

I want to work remotely from a monastery but I can't

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Basile Samel

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Today I decided to give @brianball 's formula a try and state a wish in front of a group of people to hopefully attract the right person to help me with it. Here is my statement, and one of my goal for 2019:

I want to work remotely from a monastery, but I can't because I don't know how to present it to the institution.

This idea emerged in my mind after encountering two travelers in Penang who performed a meditation retreat in ThaΓ―land.

Mindfulness is important for many endeavors. I believe building a company to be one of them. Growing a company is tough. It's easy to get caught in the past or in the future without being in the now. It's also incredibly stressful.

Monks stay in monasteries, not to run away from the world around them, but to better reflect on the nature of things. What if we viewed entrepreneurship as a form of monastic practice? What could I learn from this experience? I'm agnostic, but this idea fascinates me. I want to learn how such monks live and join them for a time. If a fulfilled life is about living many, this might be one I want to experience first-hand. A modern version of Alexandra David-NΓ©el perhaps?

@jasonleow proposed me to visit the Plum Village, a Buddhist mindfulness practice center not far from my hometown back in France. I don't see what I can bring them in exchange for some free time to work on my personal project.

I thought about writing a book on the experience. It doesn't seem they need any help with marketing either.

I guess I will just go there and figure things out with them directly. Anyone who went through a similar experience in a retreat?

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    @basilesamel love @brainball's formula! And since you asked, here's me paying it forward (as others had linked me up in past)! :)

    There are some ways you can consider trying...YMMV but worth a shot:

    Write to them asking about this. The last time I did it, they gave a discount for long term stay in exchange for helping out with chores in the monastery. Chores can change from season to season, but includes cooking, cleaning, recycling, farming etc. I helped with manual labour, but I also saw long stayers who helped out in specific ways relevant to their skills, like creating a film/website or organising community. If you offer your dev skills, they might need help with that too. It's all quite open to discussion. They are nice folks.

    Besides the monastery in Bordeaux, Plum Village also has monasteries in Hong Kong, Thailand and Vietnam. If you're thinking of staying within Asia, you can try contacting these branches with the same request as point #1.

    Plum Village has a organic, vegetable farm called Happy Farm where they practice mindful farming, and they take in 1 year volunteers or short-term volunteers. But this is only in France though.

    I spent 1 month in a Tibetan monastery in Toulouse. They need volunteers here too. The monks are mainly Europeans and you can contact them too with your request and they might just need your help. (actually most of the websites they have are kinda dated, so there might be an opportunity there.)

    Not sure if you saw this, but i wrote something about my retreat-cum-work experience in the 2 monasteries: https://jasonleow.sg/191/buddhism-in-bordeaux/

    Good luck with the search! Hope you get it! ??

    Jason Leow avatar Jason Leow | Jan 06, 2019 07:59:15
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      @jasonleow Amazing Jason!!! :) Thanks for the great share

      Basile Samel avatar Basile Samel | Jan 06, 2019 09:57:23
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    @basilesamel I don't live or run a monastery but I've lived in the past for two months. And it's not easy.

    They have different rules about eating/pooping/working/meditation and reading.

    The time I lived there, there was an opportunity to do a fast for 8 days because no food was made in that 8 days and the only option was to follow the fast or leave.

    It feels awesome now that I've completed it long ago, but I think i'd mixed feelings at that time.

    You can create the same experience in your home/room, just get rid of materialistic things of no survival value and just stay. Eat once a day, sleep with your back straight and meditate while you are not reading.

    Good luck with that wish. And it's not necessarily hard to put your wish in front of the institution. Ask the people around for the guruji/head and then ask him if you can stay there and you're ready to follow their rules for x amount of time.

    I don't know anything about remote :p

    Rohan avatar Rohan | Jan 04, 2019 23:55:14
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      @rohan Thanks for the insight!! :)

      Basile Samel avatar Basile Samel | Jan 06, 2019 09:56:38
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    What do you imagine your work-life hours being in such a scenario?

    Have you also thought about working remotely out of a live-in farm?

    Abe avatar Abe | Jan 04, 2019 21:00:48
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      @abrahamKim 4 hours every day would be a minimum. Maybe batched over a few work days?

      Working remotely out of a live-in farm would be nice too! But I can go to my hometown to have a similar experience. :)

      Basile Samel avatar Basile Samel | Jan 04, 2019 21:24:03
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      I was just thinking that the benefits of working out of a live-in farm is that you won't need to reach ramen profitability. Although you would need to do manual labor for a decent chunk of your week lol.

      But things like food and housing would be taken care of.

      Abe avatar Abe | Jan 04, 2019 21:53:11
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