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Mar 21, 2019 01:32:21

Cognitive Dissonance

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I first heard of it in the book titled - Mistakes were made, but not by me

Here is the book description:

Why can we see hypocrisy in others but not in ourselves? Are we all liars? Or do we really believe the stories we tell?
..... a compelling look at how the brain is wired for self-justification. When we make mistakes, we must calm the cognitive dissonance that jars our feelings of self-worth. And so we create fictions that absolve us of responsibility, restoring our belief that we are smart, moral, and rightβ€”a belief that often keeps us on a course that is dumb, immoral, and wrong. 


It was one of those books that was so enlightening that I talked about it ad nauseam. If you are curious about cognitive dissonance, get the book. 


In simple words, cognitive dissonance is when we tell ourselves a story/lie so we can deal with something that is happening to us. 

After reading about it, I really tried to avoid it. Then it occurred to me that maybe it is an evolutionary defense. Maybe we need cognitive dissonance to go on.

I have developed a new found respect for the evolution of the mind. 

 

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    @keni This book is on the list of "most gifted books" by Peter Attia. Now I am even more curious to read it. So many books...so little time.

    Brandon Wilson avatar Brandon Wilson | Mar 21, 2019 10:22:38
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      @brandonwilson - Oh I didn't know that. I read it a while back...but never forgot the concept or the title. One of those books... like the antii-fragile book.

      We are going to have to make time for these books. :)

      Keni avatar Keni | Mar 21, 2019 13:35:34
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      @keni @brandonwilson adding it to my 2020 book list :)

      Daniel Miller avatar Daniel Miller | Mar 21, 2019 23:34:33
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      @keni @brandonwilson

      anti-fragile is on my next-to-read list. I love the concept.

      Cognitive Dissonance has been one of my favorite concepts. I learned of it (technically) freshman year during a psychology course. It was literally just two sentences in a psychology text book and it blew my mind.

      It was a moment where I looked around and said. wow we are all doing this. And it is not good for us. It took me a couple years for me to actually also look inwards at how I was doing it. It's a lack of maturity that prevents us from seeing within us with more accuracy what we can so easily spot in others.

      I think evolutionarily cognitive dissonance is not beneficial. I alctually do not think it aided in our survival. I think it is a bug that has crept through the evolutionary process.

      Cognitive dissonance mostly deals with existential lying to ourselves. And in the evolutionary timeline, there hasn't been yet much weeding out by 'existential pressures. Most of evolutionary selection has dealt with things related to physical health and social adeptness. Existential health has not really been addressed by mother nature.

      So that's why I think it is not a defense but rather a bug yet un-addressed.

      Sir Abe avatar Sir Abe | Mar 22, 2019 16:06:46
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      @keni @abrahamKim Wow, you snuck in a very deep concept in what I originally expected to be a random, off-hand comment. I am a psychology major and don't recall learning about cognitive dissonance. If I did, it did not strike me the way it struck you. I think the "bugs" that somehow survive evolution are interesting to explore.

      Brandon Wilson avatar Brandon Wilson | Mar 22, 2019 09:04:49
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      @brandonwilson @abrahamKim - I think we are going to need a post to explain this bit here.. In simpler non-psychology majors type of writing please :)

      "Cognitive dissonance mostly deals with existential lying to ourselves. And in the evolutionary timeline, there hasn't been yet much weeding out by 'existential pressures. Most of evolutionary selection has dealt with things related to physical health and social adeptness. Existential health has not really been addressed by mother nature."

      Keni avatar Keni | Mar 22, 2019 21:08:49
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      @danielmiller 2020? I have to ask - why another 12 months away? Do you have things you already planned for this year? I have a long list of things to read as well so maybe I should be planning that far ahead as well.

      Keni avatar Keni | Mar 22, 2019 21:10:44
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      @keni I resolved to not obtain or start any new books this year, the purpose of which is to read the pile of books I already own. http://www.danielsjourney.com/2019/01/19/depth-year-of-sorts.html

      I've already obtained and started new books, though. Oops. >,<

      Daniel Miller avatar Daniel Miller | Mar 22, 2019 23:21:13
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      @danielmiller - oh wow Daniel. You have made a very interesting decision. Love your conclusion... But I need details... Details on going deep in relationships...how? And how are you doing with that goal?

      It's on thing to recognize and want to make certain changes in life and it's a whole different thing to execute. Congratulations on taking that next step. Impressive.

      Keni avatar Keni | Mar 23, 2019 00:36:17
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      @keni @brandonwilson @abrahamKim @danielmiller @daniellucas (@philh <3
      so I want to (cunningly, as I have no cognitive dissonance "there", but I do experience it "here" :D present a very different take on the subject
      https://200wordsaday.com/words/cognitive-dissonance-127645c92ae6714b1d @hwilliams

      Lucjah avatar Lucjah | Mar 23, 2019 11:03:07
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      @keni @brandonwilson

      Haha the very simplest way:

      Evolution has not yet dealt with weeding out people based on how fulfilled they are existentially. It's still at the primitive stage of weeding out based on physical health and ability to cooperate with others. Going forward a lot of depressed unfulfilled people will finally be weeded out because they won't be seen as suitable mates. Either that, or they will propagate and become the new norm, but that norm is probably not sustainable long-term for the human race.

      Sir Abe avatar Sir Abe | Mar 23, 2019 12:41:33
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      @keni @brandonwilson

      Haha the very simplest way:

      Evolution has not yet dealt with weeding out people based on how fulfilled they are existentially. It's still at the primitive stage of weeding out based on physical health and ability to cooperate with others. Going forward a lot of depressed unfulfilled people will finally be weeded out because they won't be seen as suitable mates. Either that, or they will propagate and become the new norm, but that norm is probably not sustainable long-term for the human race.

      Sir Abe avatar Sir Abe | Mar 23, 2019 12:41:34
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      @keni @brandonwilson @abrahamKim @danielmiller
      oh how I have to disagree (cool, right!)
      If you'd like to see "the other side" ( apotheosis) of Cognitive Dissonance, there we go
      (https://200wordsaday.com/words/cognitive-dissonance-and-an-amazing-irrational-third-129375c94fd88238a2)
      and, if you let me (or if not actually)
      (https://200wordsaday.com/words/cognitive-dissonance-the-path-to-130235c966737e5760)

      so what say you?

      Lucjah avatar Lucjah | Mar 24, 2019 19:05:25
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      @lucjah - Based on this much back and forth on what we all think of cognitive dissonance - I think I need to revisit this topic. I was only introduced to it from the book I read and I understand that it can cause us to be in denial about things we are uncomfortable about. But I feel that sometimes, our brain does that because we can't deal with the reality of somethings that happen to us. I started to think that it is not all bad. I guess we don't all agree on that point.

      Keni avatar Keni | Mar 25, 2019 13:10:13
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      @keni @brandonwilson the meta cognitive dissonance on actual cognitive dissonance hihihi
      it was LOTS of fun, @danielmiller :-)

      Lucjah avatar Lucjah | Mar 27, 2019 16:33:58
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