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Jan 21, 2019 17:31:21

WordPress Or Not?

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Knight

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I m a long time WordPress user & developer, checking out my old blog ( which I already converted to a static site ) it starts from the year 2004, I wrote quite a bit of posts ( stop blogging early 2017), I build some simple plugins,  started my freelance business mainly based on WordPress & Laravel, I miss out the opportunity of Premium Themes & Premium Plugins land grab.

Oh, yes most of the blogger started 2004 should have at least earn something through the blog before, my blog did bring me few small Google Adsense cheque before.

Since I stop blogging on WordPress 2017, I start to shift my focus on WordPress to Laravel, I stop following and chasing all the WordPress news and if possible will try to use other solutions then WordPress. One of major drawback for me, if using WordPress, most likely it should come with a maintenance plan because to take good care of a WordPress site, is not easy. Most of the time the client never budget for this sort of thing, so is really hard for me to pitch with a solution like this. 

2018 when I started my company with my partner, one of the major goal we are focused on doing things out of WordPress, provide different solutions for our clients, but it seems like doesn't work that well. At the end of 2018, I back to solo, I converted a proposed solution that using jamstack e-commerce back to Woocommerce and shipped the thing within a week. 

For 2019, I still tweaking my business direction, but I m still struggling with this WordPress thing, got a few ideas for WordPress product, but I m not sure shall I go for it. There is some recommendation instead of starting with saas as an indiehacker, starting with some once off product might be easier. 

So while fine tuning my business direction, I still need to ask myself shall I continue WordPress or not, or shall I just focus on Laravel ( and maybe Vue ?).

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    @knight "One of major drawback for me, if using WordPress, most likely it should come with a maintenance plan because to take good care of a WordPress site, is not easy. Most of the time the client never budget for this sort of thing, so is really hard for me to pitch with a solution like this. " That's so true. But now I can see also the client side (I'm working for a small company which has a website on Wordpress). As a web designer or WordPress developer, you should give the client the final web as in the contract and the client should pay for all the additional changes, that's for sure but the coding should be done properly so the updating of the core and the plugins can do the client by himself as well as adding copy... but as a client I definitely don't wanna pay for wrong coding. I took over our website now and the coding is done directly to the template and functions, its big hassle to manage anything even the basic updates for me and the previous developer, of course, wanna pay for everything ....so I think there is definitely space for doing WordPress (or simply websites) consultations. I mean you could provide service that you would check the client websites before final approval with the developers and say what is all right and what is wrong so the client can avoid future problems. ...I'm sorry for long reply, but I'm struggling a lot with that right now haha.

    Efran avatar Efran | Jan 21, 2019 13:18:07
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      @efran agreed, but sometimes the client doesn't understand, lol. I have a client then come back to me and tell me finally he understand why I charge this amount and other charges so cheap, things that his developer take few days to come back and I resolved within an hour.

      Knight avatar Knight | Jan 23, 2019 16:09:00
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    @knight was reading this just a few days ago: https://m.signalvnoise.com/signal-v-noise-exits-medium/

    The Pageman avatar The Pageman | Jan 21, 2019 12:06:21
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      @knight @thepageman

      Wow thanks for this url.

      I used to follow svn / Basecamp religiously. I actually read DHH's post for why they were originally moving to MEdium and hadn't been aware that they exited.

      When I saw your url I had to take a double take. I thought it was a typo.

      Abe avatar Abe | Jan 23, 2019 02:24:52
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      @thepageman ya and I really surprise they using WordPress, I thought they will using jamstack or something else.

      Knight avatar Knight | Jan 23, 2019 16:09:49
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      @thepageman @abrahamKim lol ya quite a big news and bring more attention to WordPress, just that I really wonder why?

      Knight avatar Knight | Jan 23, 2019 16:10:39
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      @knight @thepageman

      Dhh and Jason fried of Basecamp/svN actually have very similar philosophies to running companies to Matt Mullenweg of Automattic -- creator of Wordpress.

      Abe avatar Abe | Jan 23, 2019 21:38:01
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      @knight I have a different URL for that :) Here's a cautionary tale from Monica Lent: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1086906581227397120.html (as an aside, check out the comments being surprised that git has a garbage collector!) - the main takeaway here is that - do you need an engineering team just to have a blog or just outsource all the engineering needs to the Wordpress team :)

      The Pageman avatar The Pageman | Jan 24, 2019 08:19:50
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      @thepageman lol you have the valid point

      Knight avatar Knight | Jan 24, 2019 16:59:38
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